Sims 4 Base Game + Norton 360 = Trojan?

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Sims 4 Base Game + Norton 360 = Trojan?

Post by Aquabreeze on Fri 24 Apr 2015, 18:48

Alright, so I was downloading the TS4 base game from G4TW's download pages, and everything was going well- until my Norton 360 picked up on two trojans and deleted them. The game wouldn't start after that. I trust you guys completely (I have a fully loaded copy of TS3 thanks to you all, without an extra cent to EA), but why is my antivirus doing that? I want to add TS4 to my white-listed files, but- I have general anxiety disorder, and I am honestly a little scared that whitelisting will allow a couple of trojans through. Would one of you be able to explain why Norton thinks game files are trojans to calm my nerves? Also, do I need to uninstall and reinstall the game for it to work properly, or can I just go through the process again without any trouble?

Thanks in advance, guys. Sorry for the whole anxious brain thing.

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Re: Sims 4 Base Game + Norton 360 = Trojan?

Post by hawkbs on Sat 25 Apr 2015, 04:58

Any anti virus will generally pick up any Hacked executable as a potential virus etc. Its called a false positive due to the fact the code has been modified from the original. The same goes for the dll files as well, keygens and custom installers. Best thing is turn off your Anti Virus when downloading and installing cracked games, programs etc or you will keep on getting false positives and your antivirus will generally put the files into a quarantine folder.
Avast is also a good one for doing it with cracks. Just disable your Norton AV uninstall and reinstall the game it should then work. Then you can turn your anti virus back on and add an exclusion to your Sims 4 folder so it doesnt decide to move the files during any routine scans.
G4TW and Razor911 are the most reputable with their games btw.
If you are paranoid about these things I suggest ditching Norton and installing Comodo which is free and allows you to install and run any program into a sandbox (containment) environment which is built in to it first. Anything you run inside the sandbox is completely separated from your OS and cannot hurt anything. Its just a pia to move it over from the sandbox to where you want it installed though. By default anything thats downloaded and installed will be put into the sandbox unless you set it up to not do so.
Comodo is the only Anti virus with this technology at the moment.

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Re: Sims 4 Base Game + Norton 360 = Trojan?

Post by The_gh0stm4n on Sun 26 Apr 2015, 03:42

@Aquabreeze wrote:Alright, so I was downloading the TS4 base game from G4TW's download pages, and everything was going well- until my Norton 360 picked up on two trojans and deleted them. The game wouldn't start after that. I trust you guys completely (I have a fully loaded copy of TS3 thanks to you all, without an extra cent to EA), but why is my antivirus doing that? I want to add TS4 to my white-listed files, but- I have general anxiety disorder, and I am honestly a little scared that whitelisting will allow a couple of trojans through. Would one of you be able to explain why Norton thinks game files are trojans to calm my nerves? Also, do I need to uninstall and reinstall the game for it to work properly, or can I just go through the process again without any trouble?

Thanks in advance, guys. Sorry for the whole anxious brain thing.

Hello again,

You can safely add that download to the exclusions of your anti-virus program. Smile  Due to the fact that the crack needs to emulate the behavior of the "Origin" game client (which in turn is a typical behavior pattern of many "real" virusses), the crack is almost always picked up by anti-virus software.

But I guarantee you that it is safe to use. Smile  


@hawkbs wrote:If you are paranoid about these things I suggest ditching Norton and installing Comodo which is free and allows you to install and run any program into a sandbox (containment) environment which is built in to it first. Anything you run inside the sandbox is completely separated from your OS and cannot hurt anything. Its just a pia to move it over from the sandbox to where you want it installed though. By default anything thats downloaded and installed will be put into the sandbox unless you set it up to not do so.
Comodo is the only Anti virus with this technology at the moment.


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Just a few things to add: these 'sandboxes' are very common, in nearly all modern anti-virus programs. Avast Internet Security (which is the program I have) also has such a sandbox. Of course, I have never used it so far, hence I cannot make comparisons between that and any other sandboxes from other programs. The features, that the programs download and install themselves into the sandbox by default, and can be moved to the regular OS, aren't that unusual either, in my opinion. Anything else, i.e. that the programs download and install themselves within the regular OS at first, would defeat the point of having such a sandbox anyway.

But still...you should not make the mistake to underestimate the creators of virusses. You may have heard from virusses/malware that are aware of "sandboxes", and hence can still damage your OS. If you want to be really safe, use a small hard-drive like me, attached to the SATA controller of your computer. On this "dummy" hard-drive, you install Windows like normal, but then without your personal stuff. On that backup drive you can do as much experimenting with alleged virusses as you like. And should you feel the need to format that drive at some point, edit your BIOS to boot from the optical disc drive, and use a special CD/DVD to format the hard-drive (I would not recommend hooking such a setup to another computer though, due to the risk of the virus 'travelling' to the other computer).

But the main message is: don't just think that because the sandbox "appears" to be separated from your main OS, that it will be that way, in all circumstances. And besides, even the best sandbox in the world cannot replace sound human judgement - something which is unfortunately being neglected more and more in today's times - but that's off-topic. Sure it is a tool that can help, but without a basic level of judgement, you should not rely on stuff like that.
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